A Reddit Dating Story Raises the Question of Who Pays

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First published February 27, 2019.

Woman in a white dress with lobster, fries and white wine, marked "not the actual photo", beside the Messenger chat

In the old days, when women used to be less likely to work and earn their own money, it was considered to be normal for the man to pick up the bill when on a romantic date. In some cultures, that hangover from the past is still the accepted norm, while in other places and among many couples, expectations differ, and splitting the bill or taking turns is common.


First dates might be an awkward social minefield in general, and that little ambiguity only adds to this confusion. Reddit user u/CuteBananaMuffin has recently shared his story, and it is fair to say that his date was the old-fashioned type. After he did the progressive (and frankly, fair) thing on their first date, he thought he’d try to ask her out again, as he thought it had gone pretty well. Perhaps it had, up until the fateful moment the restaurant bill appeared.

In the Messenger screenshots he shared, he asks her out again and she refuses because, as she puts it, he made her pay for her own food and drink. He replies that she had invited him, that his carbonara and beer came to €17.50 while her lobster and €80 wine came to €110 (roughly $126), and that he is a student, not her "sugar daddy". She answers that gentlemen always pay for a woman's food and questions his sexuality; he counters that he stayed through dinner while she talked about wanting to make out with another man. The exchange ends with her insulting him and him replying with a heart-hands meme. The lobster photo at the top is marked "not the actual photo" and only illustrates the story.


Illustrative photo of a woman in a white dress holding white wine over a plate of lobster, salad and sweet-potato fries

Messenger screenshot: he asks "Hey, wann go out tonight?" and she asks why he expects a second date after last time

Screenshot: he asks "What have i done??"; she says he made her pay for her own food and drink while he paid only for his

His reply: she invited him; his carbonara and beer cost €17.50, her lobster and €80 wine €110; "I'm a student"

Her reply calls him rude, says gentlemen always pay for a girl's food and suggests he must be gay

His reply: he stayed as a gentleman while she talked about wanting to make out with another man, whose name is hidden

She sends an expletive-laced insult; he answers with a vintage photo meme of a mustached man making a heart with his hands

Here is what other people had to say about the exchange:

Reddit comment by adam_k_for_honor: she invited him so she could get expensive food without expecting to pay

Reddit comment by classyharvey: anyone who expects royalty treatment is not someone you want in your life

Reddit comment by Dark-Castle mocking her as someone who expects to be waited on at home

Reddit comment: "Lobster and expensive wine lol she was really counting on you to pay for it"

Reddit comment by cyberhydra13 praising the poster's replies as "on point"

Reddit comment by darthhellokitty calling it obnoxious to go out solely for the free lobster

Reddit comment by funny_like_how: on a first date each person should expect to pay for their own food unless one offers

Reddit comment by BooooHim: pay for yourself; if you cannot afford the meal, decline or suggest a cheaper place

Reddit comment by princessarielmama, a woman who always expects to pay for her own food and drinks on any date

Reddit comment by ndl73 imagining her face when the bill arrived and he suggested paying for their own food

Reddit comment by desert-lightning criticising her for calling him gay because he ordered something reasonable

Reddit comment by BtotheAtothedoubleRY: "Love the burn at the end... She had it coming"

Reddit comment by the_bubbleh saying she is the kind of person who seeks out pushovers in her life

The bill exposes an unspoken expectation

The exchange is presented through one person's account, so it does not establish the full history or motives of everyone involved. What it clearly illustrates is how differently people may understand the same invitation. A price on a receipt can become an argument about courtesy, fairness or interest when those expectations have never been discussed.

Make the arrangement easier to understand

A simple conversation before ordering can prevent a guess from becoming a grievance. Suggesting separate bills, offering to treat someone or choosing a place that feels affordable can all be discussed without using payment as a test of character. The useful lesson is clarity and mutual respect, rather than assigning a universal rule to a gender or drawing conclusions about an entire culture from one online date story.

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  1. Jeez people do that shit these days cast spells ,iam on the run already.
    Thank gid it wasnt me

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